Tuesday, 3 June 2025

The Bus Chronicles: The Bee Network, six months in


The 3rd of June marks the sixth month anniversary of the Bee Network. Or, to put it another way, it will have been six months since franchising was rolled out across all 10 boroughs of Greater Manchester.

With this in mind, now seems like a good opportunity to look back and reflect on what have been the good bits and the bad bits of this form of franchising so far. Unfortunately, as a regular bus user, it's actually easier to spot the things that haven't gone so well than the things that have gone well.

One area that has seen an improvement is contracts for drivers, with the 'Licence for Greater Manchester' now meaning that drivers can leave one of the bus companies operating on the Bee Network in order to work for another one also operating on the Bee Network, without having to start at the new company on a basic salary. Ie, they can keep their previous grade and salary when they move companies and will no longer have to take a pay cut every time they change operators. This is really good news because it removes barriers to moving jobs, which is always a good thing, and in practical terms would mean that if you're working for a shit bus operator you can now move to a slightly better one without having to take a pay cut for the privilege of doing so. 

An area where the Bee Network sought to make positive change was in the design and accessibility of the new yellow buses, which were meant to be more accessible for those with disabilities and with visual and hearing impairments. On paper at least, this has been achieved in that the new buses do have floors that can be lowered, there is greater space for wheelchairs, and there are stop display screens and recorded audio stop announcements in place. In reality though, it just isn't working as it should be.

Let's take the changes one at a time.

In terms of having a bus that can lower the floor to the same height as the kerb, this is something that was in place on most of the old buses anyway (certainly on Stagecoach buses) and, as previously, while it's good to have it and it should be standard, the implementation of it's use depends very much on the individual driver as well as on the individual driver's access to the bus stop. For example, the 385 is cursed by having a large number of bus stops without road markings where local residents are forever parking their cars with impunity. This makes it hard for intrepid 385 drivers to pull into the stop and get close enough to the pavement to ensure a smooth exit from the bus. A drop down floor doesn't solve this particular problem. Proper road markings for bus stops and enforcement action against motorists parking at bus stops would. 

The greater space for wheelchairs is really good and does ensure that there is more room on the buses for those using a wheelchair. I'm really glad that it was built into the design, but... It does mean that there are now less seats on the buses. Especially the single decker buses and the smaller single decker buses that basically resemble a minibus. This unfortunately leads to more people standing in the aisles, hindering access for everyone, including those using a wheelchair.

The visual display screens and audio announcements were being trialled on Stagecoach pre Bee Network and, as with the ones on the Stagecoach buses, the problems have remained the same: They are rarely switched on and, when the drivers do remember to switch them on, they often have the wrong end of the route displayed. There is literally no point in looking at a list of real time stop information for the Hawk Green and Mellor end of the 385 route if you're actually travelling in the opposite direction towards Stockport. It tends to be even rarer for the audio stop announcements to be switched on and, again, they sometimes are wrong as well. I'm assuming that the three main reasons why the visual and audio stop info isn't switched on are as follows:

1) Lack of training on how to switch them on and ensure they are working properly.

2) Tech failures

3) Drivers find the audio announcements annoying and know that some passengers do as well.

This all leads me onto a number of other areas in which the first six months of the Bee Network can be seen to have not been that great.

Firstly, there have been problems with vehicles. Not just the new vehicles - which have definitely had problems, both as described above, but also with payment scanners not working properly for days or weeks at a time - but also with old vehicles. Specifically, there have been a number of occasions when I've flagged down a bus that I know is my bus (because no other buses stop at that stop) but it has either not had a destination or number displayed on the front of the vehicle or, on one memorable occasion, has had the 'Sorry, not in service' display up while still carrying passengers. 

There's also driving styles, which leads onto a personal bugbear of mine, ie drivers who don't know how to drive over speed bumps without treating passengers like a sack of spuds in a delivery van. 

The big problem is, of course, reliability. According to the data that the Bee Network has collected over the past six months, reliability on bus routes in Tranches 1, 2 and 3 of the Bee Network is constantly improving. But it doesn't feel like that to passengers. As regular readers will know, the reliability of the 385 has - in my experience of using it - decreased since the contract was taken away from D&G and given to Diamond in January. Similarly, while it felt as though reliability on the 383 had improved since January, it now seems to be sliding backwards again (more on this in my previous post). With reliability in particular, perception of passengers is as important as cold hard statistics. If people don't feel that they are getting an improved service, they won't feel good about using the Bee Network. And they may even stop using it. 


Sunday, 1 June 2025

The Bus Chronicles: The 199, a cross boundary bus adventure

199 Bus From Manchester Airport to Buxton - Britain All Over Travel Guide
The 199

I've always liked the 199. 

This dates back to the decades before re-regulation when I still lived in Hazel Grove and was working evening shifts in Manchester. In theory, I should have been able to catch a 192 from Manchester Piccadilly that would take me all the way to what is now the Park and Ride in Hazel Grove, but what was then just known as Carpet World. In reality, it wasn't uncommon - particularly on Friday's when I finished at 7pm, not 9:30pm - to be stood at the bus stop, watching a long run of part route 192's appear and drive off. If I'd been waiting a while, I would give up and get on a part route one, then get off and Stockport town centre and hope to catch any of the following:

1) A 192 that was doing the full route

2) A 199 going to Buxton via Hazel Grove

3) A 392 or 393 going to Macclesfield via Hazel Grove

4) A 391 going to Middlewood via Hazel Grove

The 392 and 393 seem to have fallen by the wayside since January, meaning that there is no longer a bus that can take you to Macclesfield from Stockport, and commuters are now entirely at the mercy of Northern trains, which is not a happy state of affairs. I'm guessing that the reason it's gone is because for it to continue TfGM, Stockport Council and Cheshire East Council would have had to have cooperated with each other and subsidised it together, and presumably no one could be bothered. Cheshire East Council has no money so that probably didn't help. 

Macclesfield to Stockport bus timetable cuts raise concern | Local News |  News | Stockport Nub News | by Alasdair Perry
The now extinct 392

Anyway, the 199, which travels between Buxton and Manchester Airport (via Hazel Grove and Stockport town centre) is a cross boundary route which was always going to survive. It's really popular, runs regularly (every 30 minutes most of the time), is covering areas other routes don't cover, and it's being run in conjunction with Derbyshire County Council, not Cheshire East. 

Because there is no bus service linking our end of Offerton to Hazel Grove anymore (the one that did previously was the 375, which was so infrequent as to be practically non existent anyway) it was a 30 minute walk to the A6 to pick up the 199 from Bird In Hand Yard. This turned out not to be the best choice of stop in the world because, as with most stops on the A6, it's pretty much impossible to have a clear vantage point on whether the bus is coming without standing in the way of the constant flow of human traffic heading along the pavement. At least there's a nice wall to sit on though.

We were going for the 12:21 bus only it never arrived and we instead ended up on the 12:51, which arrived around 1pm ish. Apparently there had been an accident somewhere along the route, possibly at the Airport end, and there was definitely a serious crash in Buxton so that probably had an impact as well. I'm not sure if Skyline simply pulled the 12:21 bus and didn't tell anyone (a'la Stagecoach) or if their timetable had just got so badly out of sync thanks to at least one serious RTA that the one that turned up at 1pm was the one that should have turned up at 12:21. We will never know.

I've never gone beyond the TfGM/Derbyshire border* on the bus before, so I've always been able to use my TfGM pass previously. Because we were going to Chapel-en-le-frith, which is across the Derbyshire border, I had to pay £6 for a Peak Network 1 Day pass, which I think is the one that covers you for all buses run by Skyline. They sell a number of different day passes by zone and, while I was expecting Chapel to be covered by the Buxton zone ticket, I was willing to be guided by the driver on this. Again, because it's Derbyshire, not Greater Manchester, the single fare cap is £3, not £2 anyway, and £3 each way would have been value for money for a 35-45 minute bus journey. 

One of the reasons why I've always enjoyed using the 199 is that the buses are always clean and comfortable, the drivers are friendly, and it just feels pleasant travelling on them. Friday was no exception to this and I was very pleased to notice, after a while, that Skyline have visual and audio stop announcements (which were turned on and displaying/broadcasting the correct information on both buses) which came in very useful when it came to getting off at the right stop in Chapel. 

On the way back, I discovered that I could still use the Bee Network app (even in Derbyshire) to see when the next 199 was due. I think it was late but, given that we only had to wait for 10 minutes for it, I was happy with that. It did take several attempts to figure out how to scan in with the QR code on my paper ticket but, once I'd mastered it, it was fine and a smooth return journey unfolded, followed by a long walk home. 

*Lyme Park, which technically comes under Cheshire East, but which is right on the Cheshire East/Derbyshire border and, anyway, marks one of the geographical points where you have to start buying a separate ticket and can't use your TfGM/Bee Network tickets.